British Shadow Secretary of State for Defense Calls Russia a Threat

A week ago, on Tuesday, December 8, the Chatham House held the event "The Way Forward for NATO" featuring the British Shadow Secretary of State for Defense and Member of Parliament, Dr. Liam Fox (see photo on the right courtesy of www.liamfoxmp.co.uk), who delivered the speech on the future of the alliance. During the questions-and-answers session moderated by the Director of the Chatham House, Dr. Robin Niblett, Dr. Fox made a number of compelling remarks. Here are a couple of excerpts from the Q&A session, which can be streamed in its entirety (approximately half an hour) here:

On the geopolitical significance of globalization:

We do live in a very different global environment. I think that in many ways politicians have less grasp of globalization than the business community have. Politicians would like to talk about trade and prosperity, but they tend to focus much less on what is the unavoidable importation of strategic risk. If you have more widespread interests in more parts of the world, you are likely to be more threatened by more actors in more places. In many ways we are returning to a much more XIX century view of where we exist in the world rather than what may come to be seen as a blip of bipolarity of the XX century. And we'll have to re-learn some of the skills that we've had in dealing with that sort of global environment.


On Russia:

Tomas Valasek, Director of Foreign Policy and Defense at the Center for European Reform, who also advises Madeline Albright’s group of eminent personalities on the new NATO strategic concept, asked Dr. Liam Fox the following question:

Dr. Fox, thank you for your thoughtful remarks. One quick question on NATO-Russia. This is possibly the most divisive subject in the debates on the strategic concept so far. There are roughly three groups of allies if I might so stereotype them – those, who worry about Russia, particularly in Europe’s East and North and think of it as a possible future threat and want NATO to put in place preparations, contingency plans and exercises to prepare for the possibility; those, who do not think of Russia as a threat and think that concerns in Europe’s East and North are exaggerated; and those like Britain, if I might say so, and Canada, Denmark and others, who may be sympathetic to the concerns of those in Central Europe, but really think of Afghanistan as the right focus for NATO and possibly see in NATO paying more attention to Russia a distraction from NATO’s efforts in Afghanistan. Where would you stand on those issues? What sort of balance in your mind is required between the engagement of Russia and perhaps the reassurance of some of the allies against Russia and is reassurance indeed what NATO needs?

To which Fox responded:

I would add a fourth group, which is those, who really fear Russia, but pretend that they don’t, especially to Russia. They may be the biggest problem group that we have. I think Russia is a threat. Russia still targets weapons on us. Russia is still involved in the occupation of parts of Georgia. We’ve seen what happened in the Baltic States especially with the cyber attacks on Estonia. So let’s not pretend for a moment that Russia does not present us with the threat. It clearly does. But it also presents us with the opportunity. If we can find a way to deal with it in a constructive way, and I think what we need to do is to find language towards Russia, which is constructive, but strong and consistent. And I think the consistency is perhaps one of those things that we’ve lacked in our messaging and policy towards Russia in recent decades. So I think we have to find that. And I think…you know, in a rational world Russia would actually have a strong working relationship with the NATO alliance, with the West because we face many of the same problems of wider security, potential future threats of Islamist extremism Russia has on the southern border, of potential for nuclear proliferation, which we face in Iran, or wider issues of energy. But we do not live in a rational world and one of the problems in Russia is governance and the way Russia is governed and by whom makes a very big difference to Russia’s outlook. All we can try to do is to show Russia that we will be very strong in the defense of our borders, of those within our alliance, of our people and of our values, and ask them to work with us in areas where we have an overlap of common interests. And I think we need to go in without any preconditions, without overly optimistic views. And take a pragmatic and practical view to our relationships and establish confidence as far as we can along the way, but without fooling ourselves that we are entering some new golden era.

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NOTE: It appears that Dr. Fox's remarks caused some concern among unnamed Russian sources, as reported by the British website politics.co.uk.